Karayiannas office afternoon meeting: 07-03-2006

After waiting at the hotel for Michelle’s call I get an appointment to meet Marios Karayiannas and his father Christoforos Karayiannas at 4pm. In this meeting, Marios Karayiannas starts off by trying to explain he now has no hard feelings as we are buying the house with his changes to the site plan. He again goes on to say that his opportunity is to keep his customers happy always. I tell him that we’ll live there as not happy people and try to explain that I will let everyone know the way he does business. I show him a business card with LyingBuilder.com and try to explain that on Thursday 10am I will start my investigations into their company.

At the Karayiannas Office Tuesday 7th March 2006 around 4pm. Present were Myself, Marios Karayiannas, Christoforos Karayiannas and a young female member of their staff (translating sometimes for Christoforos Karayiannas)

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Ok how are you
I’ve been better, I’ve been better, how are you
Fine
Good
Well I’m over here till Friday, Friday midday so I haven’t got that long and I’m in the capital tomorrow so.
Ok Tell me your situation..
Well what I said to Michelle this morning, was before I release the money…I’m releasing the money with Marion (solicitor) OK
Yes
OK if I can just summarise what has gone on between us
So to summarise
With me … don’t worry with my side I mean we do have anything wrong with you.
Or I don’t have to anything with you wrong or bad thing or whatever.
You have no bad feeling?
This is my business. Yes I don’t have any bad feeling. Anything that you speak on the phone anything I speak before or anything we said on the phone whatever I can’t, OK. My business here to sort out problem yes … to keep the clients happy, but the clients. But the clients they have to understand also other side, not only their side. It’s very important. You Understand? For me and for you. Because you have to look who’s around you and dealing with people and not alone in one centre. It’s very important for my family because my business affects my family and the girl that take job now for example when they come here for a job they work as your family not as job. It’s very important for myself. This is my character

I’m very happy that your family is happy, my family is not happy.
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
Your family is not happy why?
I won’t go into the why’s again
The why’s were all in the letter
We had four points on the letter Mario’s
Yes
And you have refused to do all those four points
Yes
So I heard from your solicitor last Wednesday that you have not done anything wrong in your contract?
Yes
And
That is true.
That is your opinion OK
It is not my opinion.
If you want to talk contracts I can talk site plans, OK
Can you let me finish.
OK so,Your solicitor said on Wednesday in five lines on an email that took 2.5 weeks
This is my letter to the solicitor I sent to you…
OK. So I’m perfectly clear. Then when I spoke to Michelle on Friday she said you would not speak to me you would speak through the solicitors Is that correct?

Yes..Because I cannot
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
No. Speak with your solicitor to explain to her what is happen and what is your opinion about the deal, about the contract, about the thing that you sign on the contract..its very important.
I can speak for myself I don’t need a solicitor
OK
To speak for me
Speak for yourself
I can speak for myself
OK

I understand what was in the contract and I understand what you said when you sold.OK. So w e cannot afford to go by solicitors; we cannot afford either financially or in time. Were already moving so we will be here in August. We move here plot no 30 in August OK

OK
And, But were not happy. So when you said…
Your not happy with what?
With what you have done to our plot
About to your plot.
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
In your plot what have we done?
Explain to my father, the balconies, the balconies, the balconies.
Can you explain to your father that this was the plan we were given when we were sold the plot.
Which is your house?
This is your house.
This was to be a road
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
I have to explain to my father Without your contract what we have done to your plot,
Explain to your father this is what I was given when we bought the place
Yes of course you are from the first plan
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
What did you do in your plot when you discussed the ????? (young Female member of their staff )
Inside you plot what we have done to you.
All my issue are outside, all my issues are outside.

Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
I know where this is going. I know where this is going but I must be able to finish a sentence.
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
OK
If I can explain you can translate maybe, when I was given this I was told this is a bungalow here OK
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas

This is a bungalow here and the only 1 window looking into my house, my garden was from that bungalow. This is the bungalow and that is the only window here. There was to be a road here and there was to be a bungalow and a bungalow. There was to be no windows looking into my garden.

Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
We discuss this thing the same thing before. I build 2 or 3 houses here ok
We are not here to take it from the rent to take the houses or whatever
Am not er if you are not happy with the house I say to you these thing.
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
These are the 2 houses that remain OK And Mr Conor is that has a problem these balconies look into his plot
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
Ok anything else.

Yes
So that differs, Just the final line…
Whats the final deal
the final line is we were told that this was a very good plot because noone could look into the garden.
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas
and that is why were not happy. You just asked me to explain why were not happy and I’ve explained. Yes OK

I explain to you that outside of your plot we don’t have to do or we don’t have to respect your opinion what the other people we have to do, it’s not your opportunity to say, not me the next plot that does not belong to me what they have to do Maybe tomorrow somebody is coming to build apartment next door.

Mario’s you did this at the same time the foundation for the changes happened at the same time as the foundations for mine so don’t say that these things are happening down in the future they happened at the same time ok Marios

Now, You sell us the house were not happy, yea that’s fine yea.
Your not happy with your neighbours
I’m not happy with all these houses looking into me
Its your opportunity its your deal.
Its my problem?
Its your problem
my problem?
Its your problem
Have you anything else to say to me like sorry or anything like this

Listen the contract is contract. We signed the contract. We recognise our side to the contract. And we have our deal. If you delay any of the payment we have the opportunity to deal with our solicitor to see what we can do. These our things

And read the contract again
Because If you delay
What I delay?
If you delay in giving me the house I too have written in the contract that you will be paying me money Ok so I know what is in the contract Marios
Ok. So I have to deliver the house to you the day that we deal about
Yes
I have
one months grace
one month grace and then I am sure from myself that I have to deliver the house to you I’m am ready there you will see the tiles that I’m ready for the tiles and I have 1 month for example I have XXXXX?

Ok
Greek speaking Christoforos Karayiannas

Obviously I don’t like the way you do business
Its your problem
Its my problem
OK
But you have a solicitor to deal with
I speak for myself
Speak for yourself
Speak for myself
So I don’t like the way you do business
Yes
And it’ll be my job to make sure nobody else falls for the deception you give before they buy and then your change in the contract and things like this OK
So I’ll give you till Thursday (I write on a business card that has “lyingbuilder.com the truth about Karayiannas)

What is that?
10am now this is a website that’s up at the moment called lyingbuilder.com the truth about Karayiannas

Greek speaking to Christoforos Karayiannas
The lying builder?
Greek speaking to Christoforos Karayiannas
so 10 o’clock Thursday (they stand up) I will be telling everyone and giving everyone them cards.

you make these thing
its on the web now, go on the internet
Greek speaking to Christoforos Karayiannas

if you make this thing..listen to me
I don’t care, go on what are you going to say
Greek speaking to Christoforos Karayiannas
be careful
if you make this thing
its on there now
its online
its online

nobody knows now
its online
nobody knows but us
you are in Cyprus OK
on thursday
go away

on thurdsday 10 every one will know.

You make this thing If you delay one of the payments…you are already delay.
I’ve already sold my property I kept up my side of the bargain you keep up your side of the bargain. I ’ve kept up my side of the bargain. I’ve kept up my side of the contract

Greek speaking to Christoforos Karayiannas

Every forum will know… the way you do business

I finish my coke and leave.